http://tinyurl.com/2gzmp9

What do y'all think?

I completely agree about the vocals. The levels are demo quality and Billy seems more nasal-y than ever. The strange harmonization he acquired during Zwan is still there. Booooooo. Thank god Jimmy doesn't hate him like everyone else does. He keeps that ship afloat.

As for album art, it's fairly uninspired and I'd even say cliche. Like it was a reject from Green Day's American Idiot.

Sadly, the "I'm Billy Corgan and can do whatever I want and make million dollars!" mentality (which personally seemed to be the approach when Zwan came around) still doesn't work, even when he calls it "Smashing Pumpkins".

Working at a radio station we've had this song for a while now however, we've just now started airing it... Anyway, I listened to it probably over a dozen times thinking maybe this was a pre-mastered version and we'd probably get a letter from the label saying don't air it... Yeah, that letter never came, which then makes me believe this is it...

The vocal melody is just kind of awkward in my opinion. The guitar solo is way over indulgent, and the mix sounds like crap. Crunchy guitars are good for it to sound hard and driving, which they did get down, but the vocals are overly compressed and it sounds like they used "auto-tune" all over the place where Billy's pitch might have been off.

Anyway, I listened to it as many times as I did because I did want to like, I wanted the "new" Pumpkins to sound like the old Pumpkins... Alas, it didn't do it for me...

Quoting i_heart_keytars:
Sadly, the "I'm Billy Corgan and can do whatever I want and make million dollars!" mentality (which personally seemed to be the approach when Zwan came around) still doesn't work, even when he calls it "Smashing Pumpkins".Working at a radio station we've had this song for a while now however, we've just now started airing it... Anyway, I listened to it probably over a dozen times thinking maybe this was a pre-mastered version and we'd probably get a letter from the label saying don't air it... Yeah, that letter never came, which then makes me believe this is it...The vocal melody is just kind of awkward in my opinion. The guitar solo is way over indulgent, and the mix sounds like crap. Crunchy guitars are good for it to sound hard and driving, which they did get down, but the vocals are overly compressed and it sounds like they used "auto-tune" all over the place where Billy's pitch might have been off.Anyway, I listened to it as many times as I did because I did want to like, I wanted the "new" Pumpkins to sound like the old Pumpkins... Alas, it didn't do it for me...

Well put. The vocals are really way too hot. I will say that Corgan's guitar tone still gives me goosebumps, but damn, it's not what I wanted.

Still, I have to admit, it's better than what I expected. We'll see how this all turns out.

Well at least we still have Siamese Dream. Is it just me or does iy sound like the Corg-bat has been listening to a lot of lounge music or something lately? And whoever mixed that shit sux bigtime yo.

So the first concert since 2000 was tonight in Paris. Check out this video of a new song called "For God and Country". It's actually not too shabby.

http://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=-0qp94wN980

And to completely indulge in my Pumpkins nerd moment, here's the set list.

United States
Today
Stand Inside Your Love
Orchid
Doomsday Clock
Home
Hummer
Starz
Tarantula
Bullet
Gossamer
God and Country
33
Rocket
Winterlong
To Sheila
Glass and the Ghost
Cherub Rock
1979
Tonight
Neverlost
That's the Way
Disarm
Zero
Untitled
Shame
Silverfuck
Annie Dog
Muzzle

Quoting galaxiepi:
So the first concert since 2000 was tonight in Paris. Check out this video of a new song called "For God and Country". It's actually not too shabby. http://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=-0qp94wN980And to completely indulge in my Pumpkins nerd moment, here's the set list.United StatesTodayStand Inside Your LoveOrchidDoomsday ClockHomeHummerStarzTarantulaBulletGossamerGod and Country33RocketWinterlongTo SheilaGlass and the GhostCherub Rock1979TonightNeverlostThat's the WayDisarmZeroUntitledShameSilverfuckAnnie DogMuzzle

No Jackboot? Fuck that.

Thanks for the link, by the way.

You know, even though I haven't heard the entire album, the seeming complete slant toward a "fuck you American politics" thing really annoys me. The album name Zeitgeist, paired with the image of a Statue of Liberty sinking into a blood-red ocean. Song names like "United States" "For God and Country" and "Doomsday Clock".
I mean, I agree more than most, I'm liberal to the core, but it seems to be such a goddamned easy shot to take. Again, refer to my uninspired comment above.

Maybe I'm just a stubborn alt mid-90s fan with penchant to whine and too much time on my hands.

Quoting galaxiepi:
You know, even though I haven't heard the entire album, the seeming complete slant toward a "fuck you American politics" thing really annoys me. The album name Zeitgeist, paired with the image of a Statue of Liberty sinking into a blood-red ocean. Song names like "United States" "For God and Country" and "Doomsday Clock".I mean, I agree more than most, I'm liberal to the core, but it seems to be such a goddamned easy shot to take. Again, refer to my uninspired comment above. Maybe I'm just a stubborn alt mid-90s fan with penchant to whine and too much time on my hands.

I agree. Same thing with APC.

ALL MY HEROES ARE DEAD.

Quoting eric:
Quoting galaxiepi: You know, even though I haven't heard the entire album, the seeming complete slant toward a "fuck you American politics" thing really annoys me. The album name Zeitgeist, paired with the image of a Statue of Liberty sinking into a blood-red ocean. Song names like "United States" "For God and Country" and "Doomsday Clock".I mean, I agree more than most, I'm liberal to the core, but it seems to be such a goddamned easy shot to take. Again, refer to my uninspired comment above. Maybe I'm just a stubborn alt mid-90s fan with penchant to whine and too much time on my hands.I agree. Same thing with APC. ALL MY HEROES ARE DEAD.

So find some new ones and stop whining.

My suggestions for new Eric heroes:

Igor Cavelera
Tomas Falcon
Kumar Pallana
Pelican Sanders (me)
Sam Elliot
Tom Skerritt
Brent Reynolds
Archie Cienfranco
Todd Van Poppel
Mary Raby (Jon Raby's son)
Oil Can Boydd
Soda Popinsky
Bald Bull
Glass Joe
King Hippo
Mike Tyson

glass joe is hardly hero material

Quoting sledgbrainerd:
Quoting eric: Quoting galaxiepi: You know, even though I haven't heard the entire album, the seeming complete slant toward a "fuck you American politics" thing really annoys me. The album name Zeitgeist, paired with the image of a Statue of Liberty sinking into a blood-red ocean. Song names like "United States" "For God and Country" and "Doomsday Clock".I mean, I agree more than most, I'm liberal to the core, but it seems to be such a goddamned easy shot to take. Again, refer to my uninspired comment above. Maybe I'm just a stubborn alt mid-90s fan with penchant to whine and too much time on my hands.I agree. Same thing with APC. ALL MY HEROES ARE DEAD.So find some new ones and stop whining.My suggestions for new Eric heroes:Igor CaveleraTomas FalconKumar PallanaPelican Sanders (me)Sam ElliotTom SkerrittBrent ReynoldsArchie CienfrancoTodd Van PoppelMary Raby (Jon Raby's son)Oil Can BoyddSoda PopinskyBald BullGlass JoeKing HippoMike Tyson

what about Sanddollar McCracken?

wait, I'M pelican sanders...