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Songs That Kind of Offend Me
| Songs That Kind of Offend Me | |
| Created by: | RyanTheTruck |
| Tracks: | 11 |
| Length: | 00:35:11 |
| Keywords |
1. I 2. Hate 3. Hate |
| Created on | 1/17/07 02:09pm |
| Level | 5 |
| Points | 2318 |
| Total visitors | 78 |
| Unique visitors | 43 |
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Afterthought: Please ignore this mix. It wasn't any fun to make and was a stupid idea but I had to finish it, so I gave up after about ten or eleven. Over it. Sorry. I'll make a good one soon.
Steve Albini once said something along the lines of "offending squares is like shooting fish in a barrel; it's much more interesting and takes more skill to piss off hipsters," or something like that. As, I would like to think, a relatively enlightened person, I think I'm pretty hard to offend, but a few lines from a few songs just rub me the wrong way.
Some distinctions: These songs contain words or images that upset my system of beliefs or values. They are not songs that are simply "offensive to my ear." Each day, I hope never to hear "Imagine" or "Blister in the Sun" ever again, and the small fact that everyone in the world seems to be over nu-metal allows me a glimmer of hope in the world.
Secondly (tangentially related to the latter, I suppose), these are bands and artists I actually listen to. True, Toby Keith does want to shove his cowboy boot up Osama's ass or something, and his politics are opposed to mine, but I also don't ever listen to him, and I'm not about to make an endless list of Decemberists, Doors, and Linkin Parks.
And finally, I am not a knee-jerk neo-lib. I am aware of cultural change, zeitgeists, projecting modern values onto the past, songwriting and musicianship as an art, censorship,and the fact that anyone can sing about any damn thing they please. To continue the above example as illustrated by our mutual friend Mr. Keith, his apparent racism is, again, upsetting to the beliefs I hold. I'm not embarking on any campaigns to ban him or protest oustide of his shows in defense of the Arabic community. I think he wrote a damn song.
Thank you for indulging me. Here are some examples of songs with content I find disagreeable:
Steve Albini once said something along the lines of "offending squares is like shooting fish in a barrel; it's much more interesting and takes more skill to piss off hipsters," or something like that. As, I would like to think, a relatively enlightened person, I think I'm pretty hard to offend, but a few lines from a few songs just rub me the wrong way.
Some distinctions: These songs contain words or images that upset my system of beliefs or values. They are not songs that are simply "offensive to my ear." Each day, I hope never to hear "Imagine" or "Blister in the Sun" ever again, and the small fact that everyone in the world seems to be over nu-metal allows me a glimmer of hope in the world.
Secondly (tangentially related to the latter, I suppose), these are bands and artists I actually listen to. True, Toby Keith does want to shove his cowboy boot up Osama's ass or something, and his politics are opposed to mine, but I also don't ever listen to him, and I'm not about to make an endless list of Decemberists, Doors, and Linkin Parks.
And finally, I am not a knee-jerk neo-lib. I am aware of cultural change, zeitgeists, projecting modern values onto the past, songwriting and musicianship as an art, censorship,and the fact that anyone can sing about any damn thing they please. To continue the above example as illustrated by our mutual friend Mr. Keith, his apparent racism is, again, upsetting to the beliefs I hold. I'm not embarking on any campaigns to ban him or protest oustide of his shows in defense of the Arabic community. I think he wrote a damn song.
Thank you for indulging me. Here are some examples of songs with content I find disagreeable:
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| 1 | Oingo Boingo : Capitalism |
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I used to genuinely be unable to tell whether or not Elfman's kidding on this one. After all, it's kind of a r [...]
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Track 4 from Only a Lad
Length: 00:03:40 Year: 1981 |
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I used to genuinely be unable to tell whether or not Elfman's kidding on this one. After all, it's kind of a rarity for a rock and roll band, let alone a rock and roll band that falls within the boundaries of punk, let alone a Reagan-era punk band, let alone a band as unique and experimental as Oingo Boingo which tothis day no other band sounds like to write a song upholding typically American values and the status quo. The way he sings "There's nothing wrong with Capitalism/There's nothing wrong with free enterprise" sounds ironic enough, but he soon counters that with "You're just a middle-class Socialist brat/From a suburban family and you never really had to work," sung with obvious spite (which I can sorta get behind, having gone to UCSC and whatnot). I guess misleading lyrics and statements that really make you think are just indicative of good songwriting, even if Elfman, like Zappa, is of the Libertarian camp, proving that he is quite serious in regards to the song's message. Fuck capitalism. Boingo rules. SHOW LESS
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| 2 | Warren Zevon : Excitable Boy |
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"He took little Suzie to the Junior Prom Excitable boy, they all said And he raped her and killed he [...] SHOW MORE
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Track 3 from Excitable Boy
Length: 00:02:40 Year: 1978 |
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"He took little Suzie to the Junior Prom Excitable boy, they all said And he raped her and killed her, then he took her home Excitable boy, they all said Well, he's just an excitable boy After ten long years they let him out of the home Excitable boy, they all said And he dug up her grave and built a cage with her bones Excitable boy, they all said Well, he's just an excitable boy" To reference Oingo Boingo once more, Elfman would echo this song's sentiment three years later in his didactic esposual of the death penalty in "Only a Lad," singing "Only a lad/You really can't blame him/Society made him/He didn't wanna do it," etc. in response to the delinquency of the song's protagonist, Johnny. His antisocial behavior is not unlike that of Maxwell and his slver hammer, and like the McCartney tune, this ends in the courthouse. Zevon suffices with an "Excitable boy they all said/Well, he's just an excitable boy," even while the antics of his unnamed protagonist are far more visceral, and, to be sure, deeply disturbed. His delivery suggests that those who don't take a more punitive stance on severe crimes which are pathological in nature are not only condoning them, but furthering them. Fuck that. Zevon rulez. SHOW LESS
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| 3 | Lou Reed : I Wanna Be Black |
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"I wanna be black Have natural rhythm Shoot twenty feet of jism, too and fuck up Jews... [...] SHOW MORE
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Track 4 from Street Hassle
Length: 00:02:52 Year: 1978 |
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"I wanna be black Have natural rhythm Shoot twenty feet of jism, too and fuck up Jews... wanna be black I wanna be like Martin Luther King and get myself shot in spring... I don't wanna be a fucked up, middle class, college student anymore" Well, yeah he does. So maybe my first problem with this song is that it's redundant at that point in his career. And while I can definitely comiserate with not wanting to be a fucked-up middle-class college student, "I wanna be like Martin Luther King and get shot in the spring?" That's a little hurtin'. This album's fucking rad though. SHOW LESS
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| 4 | Nig-Heist : TLP |
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Deep breath. OK. Black Flag. Love them. Have always, will always. Nig-Heist is their roadie, Mugger's, band, a [...]
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Track 3 from Nig-Heist
Length: 00:02:16 Year: 1998 |
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Deep breath. OK. Black Flag. Love them. Have always, will always. Nig-Heist is their roadie, Mugger's, band, and every single last song on this fucking retrospective is totally unforgivable. I mean, this is the kind of over-the-top-make-your-point-with-a-sledgehammer offensive I usually love, but this is such an awful, juvenile parody of Black Flag with such horrendous lyrics it makes me like the whole SST crew just a little less for allowing sacks of shit like Mugger around. Even the cover is a stupid, pointless ripoff of Raymond Pettibon's art, which is often artistically and thought-provokingly sexist, but the cover of this record(a little girl giving head to a puppet who is holding her by a sting) is just misogynistic, much like every godawful track on here: "TLP" (Tight Little Pussy), Love in Your Mouth, Hot Muff, Balls on Fire, Slurp-A-Delic, and a snotty, useless rendition of the Velvet Underground's "If She Ever Comes" that's just kind of..."well, duh." It's like a twelve-year old who got into his dad's Playboys or something. Fuck this shit. SHOW LESS
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| 5 | Dead Boys : I Need Lunch |
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In Cleveland, Ohio in the mid '70s, a band called Rocket From the Tombs broke up, or more accurately, split in [...]
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Track 8 from Young, Loud, and Snotty
Length: 00:03:36 Year: 1977 |
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In Cleveland, Ohio in the mid '70s, a band called Rocket From the Tombs broke up, or more accurately, split into two factions. In an us-against-them not atypical of '70s rock in general, the "art fags" remained in Cleveland and the "rockers" moved to New York. The former faction became Pere Ubu (authors of "Sonic Reducer," incidentally) and the latter, the Dead Boys, both bands terribly, terribly near and dear to me. But this one track, just the one, gets under my skin and sets off red flags and all kinds of other idioms, all because of the line "Look at me that way, bitch/Your face is gonna getta punch/I said I don't need no cook girl/I need lunch," which I don't believe I'll need to get into much detail explaining why I find this objectionable and so should you. SHOW LESS
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| 6 | Big Black : Deep Six |
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Big Black is one of my hands-down, all-time favorite bands, Steve Albini is, for better or worse, still a hero [...]
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Track 4 from Racer-X
Length: 00:03:14 Year: 1984 |
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Big Black is one of my hands-down, all-time favorite bands, Steve Albini is, for better or worse, still a hero to me after all these years, and almost nothing about them offends me. Not the appearance of the word "darkie" in the first line of the first song of their first EP, not his snarling "fuck daddy like mommy" in live versions of "Jordan, Minnesota" (well, kinda), nothing save for a line in this song I used to think was funny: "I'm god's gift to women/Always want my dick/Except for that college girl/I'll kill her." Eventually, age and better judgment caught up with me, and I guess I find that pretty offensive. But I still listen to the song, dammit. SHOW LESS
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| 7 | The Rolling Stones : Brown Sugar |
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I know that the English have a different sensitivity and shared understanding when it comes to discussions of [...]
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Track 1 from Sticky Fingers
Length: 00:03:49 Year: 1971 |
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I know that the English have a different sensitivity and shared understanding when it comes to discussions of race, but "Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields/Sold in a market down in New Orleans/Scarred old slaver know he's doin alright/Hear him whip the women just around midnight?" COME ON. SHOW LESS
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| 8 | The Beatles : You Can't Do That |
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There's a lot of allusions to a lot of unsavory things in early rock'n'roll songs, but one thing I've noticed [...]
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Track 12 from A Hard Day's Night
Length: 00:02:37 Year: 1964 |
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There's a lot of allusions to a lot of unsavory things in early rock'n'roll songs, but one thing I've noticed is that the Beatles are controlling, abusive, selfish woman-haters. I guess this song isn't the best example, 'cause John Lennon's woman is running around on him and he's told her she can't do that, but I'm not a big fan of telling people what they can and can't do in general, and he obviously doesn't trust her anyways and threatens to "leave her flat" or something, and what makes John Lennon the poster child for monogamy and sensitivity anyways? He was a wife beatin', wife cheatin' drunk and a terrible father to boot. SHOW LESS
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| 9 | Fear : New York's Alright (If You Like Saxophones) |
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"New York's alright if you like art and jazz New York's alright if you're a homosexual" Dude, [...] SHOW MORE
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Track 5 from The Record
Length: 00:02:08 Year: 1982 |
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"New York's alright if you like art and jazz New York's alright if you're a homosexual" Dude, shut up. Lee Ving is such a tool. I've never been to New York, and like Fear (SEMINAL L.A. hardcore band), I will always side with California come what may. Also, he does raise some good points. New York is freezing and there's a high crime rate, but I'm cold as shit right now, and I don't think our mututal friend Mr. Ving seems to realize the magnitude of Los Angeles' crime rate. Point being: Art, jazz, culure equals homosexuality -- used in a hellof pejoritive way. I mean, I think art, jazz, and homosexuality all go together quite nicely, and I'm fond of them all. Interetsing anecdote: I saw Fear once, and the band now consists of Lee Ving backed by the Breeders. That rules. SHOW LESS
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| 10 | Notorious BIG : Gimme the Loot |
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"Man, niggaz come through Im taking high school rings too Bitches get stripped down for they earrings and [...] SHOW MORE
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Track 3 from Ready To Die
Length: 00:05:04 Year: 2004 |
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"Man, niggaz come through Im taking high school rings too Bitches get stripped down for they earrings and bangles And when I rock her and drop her Im taking her door knockers And if shes resistant baka! baka! baka!" Look. I'm not so sensitive that I care that hard that women are called "bitches" a lot in hip-hop. But must we threaten to kill them if they resist against fucking you? It just seems unecessary. Also, I'm not Charleton fucking Heston or nothing. Just because it bugs me doesn't mean Notorious doesn't have a right to say it. Plus he gets a really great line in on "Ready to Die": "There's gonna be a lot of slow singin' and flower-bringin'/If my burglar alarm starts ringin'." Ripping. SHOW LESS
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| 11 | The Streets : Turn the Page |
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"I'm 45th generation Roman" Thanks for the reminder, you imperialist prick. SHOW MORE
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Track 1 from Original Pirate Material
Length: 00:03:15 Year: 2002 |
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"I'm 45th generation Roman" Thanks for the reminder, you imperialist prick. SHOW LESS
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You make one hell of a good point when you describe why the concerning song/band is/should be offending to someone. But you also show your respect for them at the same time. Which is understandable, indeed. But- It doesn't work for me that way. Either you're a 100% with, or you're against. Otherwise, I can imagine, it feels like this huge bitter pill you, as a fan, have to swallow... I'm just a kid, though. Fuck it. This is still a nice job! :)
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